Saturday, January 09, 2010

Tips for the Freshie

Whatever I write in this post is based on my twisted mind and experience, it's not definitive, read and heed at your own risk okay?

How many freshies (fresh graduates) have been to interviews, thought they did well, but were still rejected, and couldn't figure out what went wrong?

Do you remember when big companies send their managers to your schools/colleges telling you what they are looking for when hiring fresh graduates?

Does this sound familiar?

"We don't want people who are just book smart. He/she needs to be independent, creative, adaptable, has leadership qualities, etc etc etc..."

So, you go to interview, you display your impressive resume, you brag about how you are the Head Prefect/President of the Chess Society/lead in all the assignments, bla bla bla bla...

Just what those corporate big boys want, right? Then you wait for 2 weeks, and you get no news, and you know you screwed up, and you don't know why... maybe you were not convincing enough that you have what it takes, so when you attend the next interview, you brag about your leadership abilities more forcefully... and in the end.. still no news...

Well, let me offer you a different perspective for you to ponder...

Imagine you are the hiring manager. You wanna hire someone to work for you. What type of people would you REALLY be looking at?

Let's say, you have 2 candidates: one is a typical second class degree grad, nothing outstanding, just learned enough to pass his exams and graduate; another one is a first class degree grad, and involved in all sorts of extra curricular stuff (like I mentioned above for example), outstanding fella.

Who would you take?

Let me tell you, when you are a manager/senior executive, you are hiring someone to work for you, you won't worry so much about whether he can or cannot handle the work. After all, we mostly are not prepared to face the things we do at work at college. We mostly have to start learning new things all over again.

Instead, you will worry about someone too outstanding and smart, who, given a chance, will outdo you and climb ahead of you...

This happens you know, even in big corporations. After all, we are still 1Malaysia, doesn't matter if it is US company or German company or whatever, if the personnel are Malaysian, the 1Malaysian kiasu spirit will always be there...

And of course, this is something they cannot tell you in those stupid career talks...

It's unfortunate, but it's a jungle out there... I mean, yalah, not all of 'em hiring managers are like that, but this type that I mentioned do exist, and they don't exist in minority (Chinese ones have a higher tendency, more kiasu and calculative ma)...

So... you still wanna brag about all your outstanding qualities? Brag at your own risk...

I'd say, you still have to promote yourself lah, but don't overdo it lah... and keep your eyes and ears open during interview, watching the interviewer might give you a hint whether he is the kiasu type or the angmoh (open) type...

Based on the assumption that you freshies are not applying for manager post la, if you are then different story lah....

Good luck ya... it is predicted that the second wave of economic downturn is coming in the next couple of months... we are now in the eye of the storm, the second part is going to hit us soon...
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Actually I was inspired to write this because of a recent experience... you see, I actually attended 4 interviews for 4 different positions in the company I'm in right now. My current job is from the 4th interview. The previous 3 all no news lah...

You see, recently I attended a meeting on behalf of my team, my manager was busy with another more important meeting.. This meeting that I went was actually for all the test engineering managers (I'm Test Engineer ok?) in the company.

In that same meeting, the managers from interview #1 and interview #3 were there also. I don't think they remember my name, but when they saw my face, I think they recognized me. What I saw on their faces was, initially shocked, and then, I could sense some relief in their eyes...

I could only make an common sense guess, they must've thought that I already became a manager, same level with them, luckily they didn't hire me, else I'd kick their butt...

I might be wrong also lah... who knows...

And, please don't think I'm very great lah, right hand man for my manager or what, it's just that I was more involved with the Quality/Audit side of things in the team, and that meeting was related to these stuff... I'm still a small fry lah, okay?

3 comments:

Asmahani said...

being moderate , a must, shall i say? nanged u!

Tiffany said...

oh wow...

RealGunners said...

asmahani: it depends, but on the norm, yeah, moderate is good..

i don't really care about the nangs, i just use innit when i feel like some things need to be shared, but thanks for it anyway :)

tiffany: yeah... wow...